SHEYNIN: Do you understand the problem with discussing this topic and the difficulty? It's possible to discuss it as much as you want, geopolitically, diplomatically, and so on, but in the case of the Emirates, we all understand there's a very serious issue that makes it impossible to discuss it all theoretically. Because, well, the possibility of a blockade... The Suwalki Gap is a consequence, and the Kaliningrad region in general. A military blockade of which has already been discussed in Poland more than once.

DELYAGIN: Drills on the military occupation of the Kaliningrad region were conducted back in 2018, and I believe we discussed it here.

SHEYNIN: Then the question arises, given the current trends. Mikhail says they're not afraid; they understand that we're okay. Well, what options do we have, so to speak, for responding to what's happening in the Baltics that would suit you? No button, no red button.

DELYAGIN: Let me say for the thousandth time that two plus two equals four. Saying for the thousandth time that two plus two equals four won't make them a stearin candle. First, the liquidation of Ukraine's energy grid. 12 or 13 or 14 facilities. Second, the liquidation of key elements of Ukraine's transport system.

SHEYNIN: And how will this affect you?

DELYAGIN: It will demonstrate that if you show off, the same will happen to you.

SHEYNIN: And you think that demonstration, which has been going on for three years, is so confirming the jokes about this handbrake...